Stephanie Natter, M.ALCPAT, CGP, ATR-BC

Clinical Director & Licensed Clinical Professional Art Therapist

Certified Group Psychotherapist

Board Certified Art Therapist

Maryland Board Approved Clinical Supervisor

Stephanie Natter is the founder and director of Expressive Therapy Center. She is a Licensed Clinical Professional Art Therapist and Certified Group Psychotherapist who uses a family-centered approach in her treatment of children, adolescents and adults. Ms. Natter received her masters degree in Art Therapy from the George Washington University.

Before opening the center, she had provided individual and group therapy services at well-known institutions such as Chestnut Lodge Psychiatric Hospital, The Foundation School of Montgomery County, and the Regional Institute for Children and Adolescents.

Ms. Natter has been providing individual, group, and family therapy along with parental support since opening the center in 1996.  In addition, she provides clinical supervision for colleagues and graduate students at local universities completing their masters and doctoral degrees. She holds an ATR-BC certification granted by the American Art Therapy Credentials Board and is also a member of the American Art Therapy Association and the Group Psychotherapy Association.


Ashley Williams, LCPC, NCC

Intake Coordinator & Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor

Ashley Williams attained her M.A. in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Washington Adventist University as well as a B.A. in Psychology from American University. Ms. Williams has worked for the past 4 years within the mental health field primarily with children and adolescents. She has worked extensively within inpatient psychiatric facilities to provide individual and group therapy services while developing a therapeutic curriculum specific to children and adolescents. She has worked within the social support field to provide mental health based supportive services for low income, at-risk families.


Ms. Williams incorporates a client-centered approach in her therapy sessions with the aim of developing treatment unique to each client. Her therapeutic interests include working with personality disorders as well as mood disorders, using talk-based, play, and expressive therapy techniques.


Chandni "Chunnu" Bhatia, M.S., LCPC, NCC

Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor

Chunnu is a Nationally Certified Counselor (NCC), Licensed in VA and MD (LPC, LCPC) experienced working with older adolescents, young adults, and adults of diverse backgrounds. Ms. Bhatia has also been recently recognized as a Certified Mental Health Integrative Medicine Provider (CMHIMP) providing clients with feedback on integrative approaches to healing.


A native of the DMV with a breadth of experiences across multicultural settings, Ms. Bhatia’s passions align with guiding clients facing challenges associated with multi-generational trauma, cross-cultural concerns, and acculturative stress to a place of healing. Ms. Bhatia also works with clients facing challenges related to stress management, generalized anxiety and depression. She received her Bachelor's Degree in Psychology from George Mason University and her Master's Degree from John Hopkins University, where she served in several leadership and research roles aimed at promoting mental health.


Following graduation from John Hopkins University, Ms. Bhatia has utilized a variety of effective therapeutic interventions, including Mindfulness and Cognitive Therapy (MBSR) approaches, also incorporating Internal Family Systems (IFS), Somatic Experiencing (SE), and Psychodrama techniques. Therapy is focused on gaining insight on the impact of past individual and family experiences and developing a new path toward healing with self-regulation, relaxation, and coping techniques. Clients are guided over time to develop a sense of empowerment through focusing on mind-body awareness and their own innate strengths.


Dr. Greta Carlson, Psy.D.

Psychology Resident

Dr. Greta Carlson is a doctoral-level clinician who graduated from the George Washington University in 2019. She completed her APA-accredited pre-doctoral psychology internship through Friends Hospital, working with adolescents with severe mood disorders, complex PTSD, psychosis, OCD, and ADHD and their families. Dr. Carlson engaged in her post-doctoral fellowship in trauma and dissociative disorders at Sheppard Pratt’s Trauma Disorders Program. She has experience treating complex PTSD and Dissociative Identity Disorder in inpatient and outpatient settings. During her doctoral studies, Dr. Carlson completed clinical externships at Expressive Therapy Center and The Lodge Program, working with children and adolescents ages 3-16 years old in individual and group psychotherapy. She also completed psychological assessments with projective testing in both settings, in addition to forensic assessments with adolescents at the D.C. Superior Courts. While Dr. Carlson’s clinical interests lie in psychodynamic psychotherapy and play therapy, she also employs techniques from cognitive behavioral therapy and dialectical behavior therapy. Dr. Carlson is very passionate about her therapeutic and assessment work with children, adolescents, and their families. 


Aaron Cooper, LCSW-C

Licensed Clinical Social Worker

Aaron Cooper is a licensed clinical social worker with over ten years of experience treating adolescents, adults, and families in a wide variety of settings.  Mr. Cooper earned a master of social work degree from New York University, having specialized course work in mental health, substance abuse treatment and international social work.  As a student, Mr. Cooper was trained at Elmhurst Hospital Center, providing urgent mental health care on home visits and in the psychiatric ER.  While residing in New York, Mr. Cooper provided clinical care to incarcerated adolescents and adults in two county jail systems.  He assisted the Department of Health in developing and rolling out a specialized CBT program for patients on a forensic Mental Observation Unit on Rikers Island.  In addition to correctional social work, Mr. Cooper was also a therapist for children and families at a community outpatient clinic in Queens, NY.


Upon returning home to Rockville, Mr. Cooper began working as a therapist with the Montgomery County Adult Drug Court Treatment Program.  He has also become a state certified social work supervisor and has had the pleasure of helping to supervise University of Maryland social work master’s students at Expressive Therapy Center.  Mr. Cooper brings a person-centered and solution-focused approach to his practice.  He enjoys collaborating with clients to help them identify and overcome challenging thoughts and behaviors in order to reach their personal potential.


Dr. Corine Crowley, PhD


Corine Crowley is a licensed clinical psychologist in Maryland. She completed her doctoral studies at The Catholic University of America with a specialization in Children, Families, and Cultures. Dr. Crowley has experience using therapy and psychological assessment with inpatient and outpatients populations with a wide variety of presenting problems including mood disorders, anxiety, autism spectrum disorders, social skills deficits, anger management, stress, and personal growth.


At the Expressive Therapy Center, Dr. Crowley emphasizes cultivating a strong relationship with clients in individual, group, and family therapies. The strength of this relationship helps to encourage growth in a safe and welcoming environment. In addition, she believes thorough assessment helps to clarify concerns so that problems can be targeted accurately. She utilizes eclectic techniques including play therapy, cognitive-behavioral therapy, and insight-oriented therapy in order to best meet the needs of children, adolescents, and adults. She also provides parenting skills training and conducts psychological and psycho-educational assessments. Workshops and seminars on a diverse range of topics in mental health can be provided upon request.


Veena Datta, M.S., LGPC, NCC

Licensed Graduate Professional Counselor

Veena Datta is a Licensed Graduate Professional Counselor and a National Certified Counselor with a Master's degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Johns Hopkins University. She is also a certified life coach with previous experience as an attorney. Ms. Datta works with clients of diverse ages and backgrounds with varied concerns in individual and group settings. She uses an integrative and a holistic lens to view and meet each client's unique needs. Ms. Datta specializes in helping clients with anxiety, depression, grief and loss, stress, life and career transitions, personal growth, and finding more meaning and purpose in life. While she utilizes several therapeutic methods, her overall approach is informed by a client-centered and existential perspective with an emphasis on a blend of cognitive behavioral modalities and mindfulness-based practices. 


At Expressive Therapy Center, Ms. Datta helped launch and currently manages Employee Wellness Program (EWP), which offers companies and organizations mental health support for their employees. For more information on EWP, please click here.


Suzannah Dichter, LCPC, LCPAT

Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor

Licensed Clinical Professional Art Therapist

Suzannah Dichter is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor (LCPC) and Licensed Clinical Professional Art Therapist (LCPAT). She has experience working with issues related to: anxiety, depression, grief, sexuality, identity, school difficulties, family conflict, relationship and intimacy challenges, and life transitions.


Suzannah's areas of special interest include helping clients navigate major life transitions, explore personal identity and sexuality, and empower clients to form healthy relationships with themselves and others. Suzannah takes a holistic approach to therapy, integrating one's physical, mental, spiritual, and emotional health. Through her strength- based and creative therapy approach clients begin to find self-acceptance, self-awareness, healing, inner peace, joy, fulfillment, balance, and overall well-being.


At the Expressive Therapy Center, Suzannah uses a person centered approach to build strong relationships with each one of her clients in individual, group, and family therapy. Suzannah enjoys creating a warm, welcoming, and safe environment for clients to foster healing, personal growth, and positive change.


Dr. Natascha Dillon, Psy.D.


Dr. Natascha Dillon is a graduate of the American School of Professional Psychology (ASPP), Washington, DC campus' Clinical Psychology program. She also has a Master's degree in Counseling Psychology from Bowie State University and a Master's in Clinical Psychology from ASPP. Dr. Dillon has vast experience in conducting psychoeducational and psychological assessments, and treating individuals with a variety of problems. Prior to obtaining her Psy.D., she worked as a nurse in the areas of gerontology, mental health, youth detention, addictions, and with intellectually disabled populations. Her clinical interests lie in working with diverse populations- children/adolescents, adults, families, and couples. Although Dr. Dillon has been extensively trained in psychodynamic, cognitive/behavioral, Adlerian, family systems, and Gottman couples therapies, she utilizes an integrative approach tailored to meet the needs of her clients. She has also conducted stress management seminars for the Miss Maryland Scholarship Organization and domestic violence workshops at the University of Maryland.


Adria Grey, LCPC, NCC

Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor

Adria Grey is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor (LCPC) and a National Certified Counselor. Mrs. Grey earned a Masters in Clinical Mental Health Counseling at Walden University. She has worked with children, adolescents, and their families for the past 10 years. She has extensive experience working with at-risk youth and providing supportive services. She has worked in residential facilities for adolescents and adults, as well as in-home based services. She has provided wrap around services and initial intakes within the residential setting. She has experience with inpatient substance abuse treatment and has provided assessments in this setting.  In a private practice setting, she has worked with individuals, couples, and groups and implements a variety of expressive therapies within her practice. 


She introduces a person-centered approach within her theoretical perspective but also incorporates techniques from a variety of disciplines to meet the needs of her clients. She provides social skills and supportive groups for children and adolescents struggling with awareness, perspective taking and interactions with peers. Her group work extends over a wide range and often utilizes creative expression. She continues to advance her knowledge and background with training, development, and new opportunities. Currently, she is seeking her Registered Play Therapy (RPT) license.

Adria has chosen this field as she enjoys helping others realize the strengths and tools, they already possess to support themselves through life’s everyday challenges.


Liz Hagerman, MA, BC-DMT

Board Certified Movement and Dance Therapist

Liz Hagerman MA, BC-DMT, is a Board-Certified Dance/Movement Therapist with a Master’s degree from Goucher College in Dance/Movement Therapy, and a Bachelors in Psychology from the University of Montana. Liz is excited about infant, toddler and young child development and is an avid studier of ongoing birth to 5 developmental theory and research. She has compassion for parents’ struggles and loves working alongside parents to creatively and playfully connect with their child so they can understand what their child is trying to tell us because all behavior is communication. Liz holds many post graduate certificates, is on the faculty of the Infant Observation certificate program at the Washington School of Psychiatry and has studied the “Watch Wait and Wonder” psychotherapy model of working with young children and their parents. In 2007, she developed psycho-educational Parent Infant and Toddler groups at two arts-based (Waldorf) schools in Montgomery County. She has a keen interest in motor development and the relationship of motor development to the development of a sense of self. Liz is dedicated to helping parents of little ones to navigate the emotional ups and downs of early parenthood.

Liz has also offered trainings to child care professionals and early childhood teachers on motor development and sensitive caregiving to promote healthy attachment based on the Pikler® and RIE® approaches. She believes “Peace begins on the changing table” Liz’s first specialty as a Dance/Movement Therapist was with women with eating disorders and body image struggles, and trauma.


Vicky Nogales, MS, LCPC

Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor

Vicky Nogales graduated from Walden University, achieving a Masters in Marriage, Couple and Family Therapy. She also has graduate degrees in Family Systems Therapy and Educational Psychology from the Universidad Católica del Uruguay, as well as a specialization in Conflict Resolution Management from the Pontificia Universidad de Chile. She has also received training in Cognitive-Behavior Therapy, Career Counseling, and Narrative therapies.

Before moving to the United States, Ms.Nogales, worked at the Catholic University of Uruguay as a professor in Counseling Strategies in Educational Setting, Career Counseling, and Systems Theories of Psychotherapies both for undergraduate and graduate students. She also has a background in research, studying family systems and their adaptability and communication styles related to family satisfaction. Ms. Nogales was also clinical director for Vocare, a career-counseling clinic in the Dominican Republic, focusing mainly on young adult career planning. She has been in the clinical field for over 15 years, working on prevention through couples’ and parents’ workshops, as well as providing individual, couples and family therapy.

Vicky approaches therapy with warmth, genuineness, and enthusiasm. She also believes that therapy provides the individual a space for voicing his/her needs in a healthy way and strengthening relationships through the use of narratives, conflict resolution, humor, and flexibility. Using an eclectic perspective, adapted to what each family, couple or individual needs, Emotion Focused, Narrative Therapies , the Gottman Approach and the Virginia Satir’s Communications Approaches, guide her sessions.  Gottman’s approach to parenting, Emotion Coaching: The Heart of Parenting, is also a part of her systemic view.


Jacy Perkins, PMH, CNS-BC

Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse

Clinical Nurse Specialist-Board Certified

Jacy Perkins is licensed as a Clinical Specialist in Child and Adolescent Psychiatric and Mental Health Nursing as well as a Registered Nurse. She completed her education at Catholic University of America in 1994, and has served children and families ever since. At Children's National Medical Center, Ms. Perkins oversaw the Child and Adolescent Day Treatment Program. She also assisted in the assessment and diagnosis of patients, provided group, family and individual therapy, and worked with parents to develop behavior plans and contracts.

At Expressive Therapy Center, Ms. Perkins works with children, adolescent and adults individually as well as in group therapy settings.


Kristen Pilgrim, MA, RBT

Registered Behavioral Technician

Kristen Pilgrim received her M.A. in Mental Health Counseling with a focus in Drama Therapy from Lesley University. Prior to that she obtained her B.A. in theatre and psychology from the College of William and Mary. Ms. Pilgrim has been using drama therapy with adults with cognitive/developmental disabilities for the past seven years as a teaching artist with ArtStream, an inclusive theatre company. She has worked with children, adolescents, and adults struggling with depression, anxiety, thought disorders, eating disorders, and trauma in Dominion Hospital’s inpatient setting. Additionally, she is a teaching artist affiliated with several educational theatre companies and has worked with kids from elementary through high school on original musicals, straight plays, and Shakespeare. Ms. Pilgrim is also a Registered Behavior Technician with the Behavior Analyst Certification Board and has within behavioral therapy for children on the Autism Spectrum for the past 5 years. 


Ms. Pilgrim’s person-centered therapeutic approach intentionally uses theatre tools such as story-telling, relationship, improvisation, movement, and play to create therapeutic change. She believes in the power of the mind-body connection to bring problems out of our heads and into the world so they can be more thoroughly explored. She aims to help clients fully integrate their experiences using both traditional talk therapy and action oriented expressive therapy. 


Susan Rail, LCSW-C

Licensed Clinical Social Worker

Susan Rail has provided individual, group, and family therapy throughout her professional career. She specializes in treating Anxiety, OCD, Depression and Mood Dysregulation using evidence-based Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Mindfulness Training, Relaxation Techniques, and Insight-Oriented Therapy.  Ms. Rail helps each individual to face and manage both positive and difficult life events, stressors, and personal challenges so day to day living can feel more peaceful, successful, and fulfilling.  She also believes in the value of establishing a connected, trusting relationship with each client which is crucial for positive change to take place.

Other areas of expertise:

  • Mood Disorders

  • ADHD

  • Self-esteem issues

  • Motivation issues

  • School problems

  • Behavioral problems

  • Social skills deficits

  • Family Problems

Attachment issues related to adoption and/or abuse/neglect backgrounds

Ms. Rail is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW-C).  She received her undergraduate degree in Psychology at the University of Maryland, College Park in 1987, and her Master’s degree in Social Work at the University of Maryland at Baltimore in 1992.  

Ms. Rail holds a certification as a Certified Clinical Anxiety Treatment Professional (CCATP) with knowledge and training on Applied Neuroscience for Treating Anxiety, Panic, and Worry. 
Ms. Rail has extensive experience and expertise working with children, adolescents and their families, and adults in a variety of settings, including psychiatric inpatient units, psychiatric day treatment centers, therapeutic foster care, and outpatient settings.  She also was the Clinical Director of Oakmont School, a therapeutic middle school and high school for kids with emotional difficulties.
At Expressive Therapy Center, Ms. Rail works with children, adolescents, and adults ages 10 and above and provides individual therapy, family therapy and parenting support. 



Jennifer Robertson, LCPC, NCC

Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor

Jennifer Robertson has worked with children between ages 2-18 years since 2000 on an individualized therapeutic level.  Throughout her time in the field, Jennifer has gained experience with children, families and educators from a broad spectrum of backgrounds to provide a client centered approach that supports children in managing their feelings and improve the family dynamic. She is experienced working in both clinical and in-home settings, in schools from preschool through high school, and with the child’s team of educators, child specialists and other supportive adults.

Jennifer’s goal is to provide a welcoming, safe, non-judgmental space that allows the client to connect, gain strategies, build individual and relationship resilience and facilitate hope and healing. By fostering bonds, building self-esteem, teaching somatic awareness, presence, focus, and mindfulness; the child and family will work together to restore peace and balance in the family system. 


Andree Schillesci, MA, BC-DMT

Board Certified Movement and Dance Therapist

Andree Schillesci is a Board Certified Dance Movement Therapist. Ms. Schillesci earned a Masters of Arts in Dance Movement Therapy from Goucher College and has worked with children, adolescents and their families for the past 20 years. She has extensive experience treating children in the spectrum areas of communication. In addition, Ms. Schillesci taught at Gallaudet University using dance/movement therapy to increase and integrate socialization skills among prelingually deaf children. She often incorporates sign language and nonverbal techniques as well as verbalization to enhance communication and interpersonal skills. Ms. Schillesci’s recent training will begin to engage yoga techniques in her practice with children and adults.

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Kimberly Schlosser, LCSW-C

Licensed Clinical Social Worker

Ms. Schlosser received her MSW from The University of Maryland and postgraduate training from The Ackerman Institute for the Family in New York. She has been providing clinical services to children, adolescents, and adults through individual, couple and group counseling since 1995. Before joining ETC, she provided clinical services at JSSA Rockville, The Pathways Schools, Chestnut Lodge Psychiatric Hospital, Fenton House Crisis Center and Beth Israel Medical Center for Addiction. Additionally, she provides post-production aftercare services for reality television participants.


Ms. Schlosser counsels individuals, couples, families, and groups through transitions with the aim of empowering her clients to meet life challenges. She uses her vast clinical experience and the latest research to inform her practice with sound, practical guidance with her clients. Whether she is working with an individual, couple, or family, she attempts to create better understanding and increase empathy.


Dr. Daniel Wagner, Psy.D.


Dr. Wagner is a licensed psychologist in both Maryland and New York. He earned his doctorate in clinical psychology from Long Island University/C.W. Post, and his B.A. in Theatre Arts from Brandeis University. Dr. Wagner has extensive experience in treating children, adolescents, adults, couples, and families in a variety of settings and for a multitude of presenting problems. Using primarily a Cognitive-Behavioral model with influences from other orientations, Dr. Wagner's therapy includes coping skills training, mindfulness, and relaxation, emotion management, social and interpersonal effectiveness skills, and other problem-solving strategies aimed at helping people gain more understanding of their thoughts, feelings, and behaviors. Dr. Wagner remains active in the research pertaining to Dialectical Behavior Therapy and has presented a paper at a national conference on an assessment for impulsivity, emotion dysregulation, interpersonal chaos, and confusion about self.

At Expressive Therapy Center, he works with clients of all ages providing individual, group, couples, and family therapy.  He also works as the K-5 school counselor at McDonogh School in Owings Mills, MD and is an adjunct professor in Psychology at Stevenson University.