homepage01 homepage02

Forget-Me-Not Grief and Loss Coping Group

Expressive Therapy Center offers a group for children who have recently experienced the loss of a loved one.  This group provides an opportunity for children to connect with others to understand death, process their grief and the complex and intense feelings around it.  This eight session group helps children learn how to cope with their loss(es) and gain strength while enabling them to find a way to  remember and honor their loved one.


At Expressive Therapy Center, we are proud to offer well-trained therapists with degrees at the masters and/or the doctoral level. Our therapists come from a wide spectrum of counseling disciplines that include social work, psychiatric nursing, counseling psychology and clinical psychology, and have diverse areas of expertise, allowing ETC to treat clients with a broad variety of needs.

Stephanie Natter, MA ATR, CGP- Director
Nanci Brown, LCSW-C
Susan Rail, LCSW-C
Heather Norden, Psy.D.
Jacy Perkins, APRN, PMH
Natalie Selzer, LCPC
Diana Sabados, MA, LCPC, LCPAT
Andree Schillesci, M.A., BC-DMT
Daniel Wagner, Psy.D.
Daniel Isenberg, Ph.D.
Jessica Simon, Psy.D., LCPAT, ATR-BC
Emily Ray, Ph.D., BC-DMT
Lucrezia Mangione, LGPC, CMT, CHTP/I
Corine Crowley, Ph.D.


David Drowos, M.Psy- intake coordinator

Jane Ssemanda
Jennifer Saint-Fleur
Patricia Gonzalez-Flynn
Rachel Whelan, doctoral candidate
Miya Williams, doctoral candidate
Raquel Grigera, doctoral candidate
Elissa Kergosien, doctoral candidate
Azadeh Noktehdan, doctoral candidate
David Drowos, doctoral candidate

Administrative Office: (Direct) 240-912-4602

Stephanie Natter, M.A. ATR, CGP

Stephanie Natter is the founder and director of Expressive Therapy Center. She is a registered Art Therapist and Certified Group Psychotherapist who uses a family-centered approach in her treatment of children, adolescents and adults. Ms. Natter received her masters degree in Art Therapy from George Washington University.

Before opening the center, she had provided individual and group therapy services at well known institutions such as Chestnut Lodge Psychiatric Hospital, The Foundation School of Montgomery County, and the Regional Institute for Children and Adolescents.

Ms. Natter has provided weekly ongoing social skills groups for ages 4 - 18 since starting in private practice in 1996 in addition to individual and family psychotherapy. She holds an ATR certification granted by the American Art Therapy Credentials Board. She is also a certified group psychotherapist and is involved in training and supervising her colleagues. Ms. Natter is a member of the American Art Therapy Association, Group Psychotherapy Association, and the American Play Therapy Association.

Back to top

Nanci Brown, LCSW-C.

Nanci Brown is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and a Certified Imago Relationship Therapist with degrees from New York University. She is trained in yoga therapy and is skilled in both traditional as well as emerging psychotherapeutic techniques. Nanci works with children, adolescents, adults and couples on a variety of issues and has a wealth of private training with years of professional experience. She is able to tailor individual approaches to meet specific client needs. She has worked as a therapist and consultant for schools and firms in the DC metro and New York areas.
Her years of work in a private school setting treating adolescents with special emotional needs has provided her with a unique perspective on approaching teens. Additionally, Nanci is also interested in issues around post-partum and motherhood. Nanci prides herself on her approachability, her level of commitment and caring, and the individual attention that she is able to provide to her clients.

Back to top

Susan Rail, LCSW-C

Susan Rail is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and has been working in the field for 20 years. She received her undergraduate degree in psychology at the University of Maryland, College Park, and her Masters Degree in Social Work at the University of Maryland at Baltimore.

Ms. Rail has extensive experience and expertise working with children, adolescents and their families in a variety of settings. She has worked in psychiatric inpatient, psychiatric day treatment, therapeutic foster care and school settings. For four years, she was the Clinical Director of Oakmont School, a therapeutic school for middle school and high school kids with emotional difficulties. She has been successful in helping parents as well as to help strengthen navigate the special education system in order to get their children's social, emotional, and academic needs met.

Ms. Rail has provided individual, group, and family therapy throughout her professional career. She has experience with issues related to depression, anxiety, mood disorders, ADHD, school problems, behavioral problems, social skills deficits, family problems, and attachment issues related to adoption and/or abuse/neglect backgrounds. In addition to helping kids be more successful in their lives, she believes in giving support and guidance to the parents, as well as to help strengthen their parenting skills in order to be more effective and successful with their children.

At the Expressive Therapy Center, she continues to work with children of all ages and provides individual, group, and family therapy, as well as parenting guidance and support.

Back to top

Heather Norden, Psy.D.

Dr. Heather Norden is a clinical psychologist licensed to practice psychology in both Maryland and Virginia. She completed her doctoral degree in clinical psychology at George Washington University’s School of Professional Psychology with specialties in both child and adult therapeutic work. .

Dr. Norden has worked with children, adults, and families in the Fairfax County/Falls Church community mental health system providing long and short-term individual, group, and family therapy to clients ranging from toddlers to older adults. She has also provided parent training seminars, parent guidance, psychological assessments, and consultation to teachers. In addition, she has conducted therapeutic groups with children and adults including work in corroboration with the Fairfax County Grief Program.

At Expressive Therapy Center, Dr. Norden combines psychodynamic, behavioral and cognitive-behavioral techniques to provide individual and family therapy to children of all ages focusing on a range of difficulties including ADHD, mood and anxiety disorders as well as children coping with grief, trauma, chronic illness and other life stressors. She also provides social skills, life skills, and supportive groups for children and adolescents.

Back to top

Jacy Perkins, APRN, PMH

Jacy Perkins is licensed as a Clinical Specialist in Child and Adolescent Psychiatric and Mental Health Nursing as well as a Registered Nurse. She completed her education at Catholic University of America in 1994, and has served children and families ever since. At Children's National Medical Center, Ms. Perkins oversaw the Child and Adolescent Day Treatment Program. She also assisted in the assessment and diagnosis of patients, provided group, family and individual therapy, and worked with parents to develop behavior plans and contracts.

At Expressive Therapy Center, Ms. Perkins works with children, adolescent and adults individually as well as in group therapy settings.

Back to top

Natalie Selzer, LCPC.

Natalie Selzer is a Licensed Clincial Professional Counselor. She received her B.A. Elementary Education from the University of Michigan and her M.S. in Clinical and Community Counseling from Johns Hopkins University.

Trained as both an elementary school teacher and school guidance counselor, Mrs. Selzer has extensive experience collaborating with children, parents, families, and school staff. In addition to her experience working in schools, Mrs. Selzer has also worked with children in a variety of settings including individual therapy sessions, social skills groups, and summer camp settings to address issues related to ADHD, social skills deficits, family challenges, sibling rivalry, grief and loss, communication skills, and self esteem. Mrs. Selzer has received training in play therapy and utilizes expressive therapies including art, writing, and drama within her sessions.

At the Expressive Therapy Center, Mrs. Selzer works with individuals of all ages and provides individual and group therapy, as well as parenting guidance and support.

Back to top

Diana Sabados, MA, LCPC, LCPAT

Diana Sabados is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor (LCPC) and Licensed Clinical Professional Art Therapist (LCPAT). She has worked in psychoeducational, medical, inpatient and outpatient psychiatric, group home, recovery, and residential treatment settings as well as home-based services. She has experience with issues related to anxiety, depression, grief and loss, trauma, adoption, divorce, and social skills. Her area of special interest is working with children and adolescents who have experienced traumatic events and are dealing with social, emotional, and behavioral difficulties as a result. Ms. Sabados’ theoretical orientation is person-centered, using a strengths-based and integrative approach.

Ms. Sabados has held several positions on the Board of the Potomac Art Therapy Association including President. She has served on the Conference Program and Ethics Committees of the American Art Therapy Association as well as Recorder for the Assembly of Chapters. In addition, she has served on and chaired the Certification Committee for the Art Therapy Credentials Board. As adjunct faculty for the George Washington University, she teaches students in the graduate art therapy program. As an Art Therapy Certified Supervisor (ATCS), Approved Clinical Supervisor (ACS), and Maryland Approved LCPC Supervisor, she provides clinical supervision for counseling and art therapy students and professionals.

At the Expressive Therapy Center, Ms. Sabados works with individuals of all ages providing individual and group art therapy and counseling as well as parenting guidance and support.

Back to top

Andree Schillesci, M.A., BC-DMT

Andree Schillesci is a Board Certified Dance Movement Therapist. Ms. Schillesci earned a Masters of Arts in Dance Movement Therapy from Goucher College and has worked with children, adolescents and their families for the past 20 years. She has extensive experience treating children in the spectrum areas of communication. In addition, Ms. Schillesci taught at Gallaudet University using dance/movement therapy to increase and integrate socialization skills among prelingually deaf children. She often incorporates sign language and nonverbal techniques as well as verbalization to enhance communication and interpersonal skills. Ms. Schillesci’s recent training will begin to engage yoga techniques in her practice with children and adults.

Back to top

Daniel Wagner, Psy.D.

Dr. Wagner is a licensed psychologist in both Maryland and New York. He earned his doctorate in clinical psychology from Long Island University/C.W. Post, and his B.A. in Theatre Arts from Brandeis University. Dr. Wagner has extensive experience treating children, adolescents, adults, couples, and families in a variety of settings and for a multitude of presenting problems. Using primarily a Cognitive-Behavioral model with influences from other orientations, Dr. Wagner’s therapy includes coping skills training, mindfulness and relaxation, emotion management, social and interpersonal effectiveness skills, and other problem-solving strategies aimed at helping people gain more understanding of their thoughts, feelings, and behaviors. Dr. Wagner remains active in the research pertaining to Dialectical Behavior Therapy, and has presented a paper at a national conference on an assessment for impulsivity, emotion dysregulation, interpersonal chaos, and confusion about self.

At Expressive Therapy Center, he works with clients of all ages providing individual, group, couples, and family therapy.

Back to top

Daniel Isenberg, Ph.D.

Dr. Dan Isenberg is a counseling psychologist who received his Ph.D. from Lehigh University. He completed his pre-doctoral internship at the Cook Counseling Center at Virginia Tech. He has received extensive graduate training working with diverse populations, and in the areas of psychotherapy training (including process and outcomes, and supervision).
Dr. Isenberg has conducted clinical work over four years with the college-aged population from diverse backgrounds, including at Towson University, Virginia Tech, Lafayette College, and Moravian College. He has experience in individual, couples, and group therapy. Dr. Isenberg has worked with students on a number of personal and interpersonal concerns, including anxiety & depression, perfectionism, relationship problems, academic concerns (time management & study skills), career/academic major counseling and assessment, drug & alcohol issues, grief and trauma, sexual orientation and personal identity concerns, and others.
Dr. Isenberg also worked for two years at a co-occurring (mental health and substance abuse) community mental health center in Pennsylvania, helping individuals overcome their dependence on several different kinds of substances through the use of interventions informed by empirically validated treatment modalities, such as motivational interviewing and cognitive restructuring.
At the Expressive Therapy Center, Dr. Isenberg works with adults, young adults, and adolescents in individual, couples, family and group modalities, to engage together in a process that helps clients achieve the changes that they seek in their lives.

Back to top

Jessica Simon, Psy.D., LCPAT, ATR-BC

Dr. Jessica Simon is a Psychology Associate and Licensed Creative Arts Therapist who has been practicing since 2003. She received her Master’s in Creative Arts Therapy from Pratt Institute, and her Doctorate in Clinical Psychology from the George Washington University. She has worked with children, adolescents and adults, individually and in groups, as well as with couples and families.

Dr. Jessica Simon utilizes psychodynamic and family systems approaches as well as strength-based, expressive and cognitive-behavioral techniques. She has experience with a wide range of populations, including inpatient and outpatient mentally ill individuals, people who suffer from homelessness, addiction, eating disorders, developmental disabilities, social skills deficits, gender and sexuality issues and trauma.

Dr. Jessica Simon believes that everyone is unique and deserves an individualized treatment plan, and that psychotherapy is both an art and a science. Curiosity, self-awareness, creativity and humor are often utilized for personal growth and healing. Respect for individual differences and all aspects of diversity is a cornerstone of her practice.

Back to top

Emily Ray, Ph.D., BC-DMT

Emily Ray is a licensed psychologist and board certified Dance Movement Therapist. She received an M.A. in Dance Movement Therapy from the University of California at Los Angeles and a Ph.D. in Counseling Psychology from the University of Texas at Austin.  Dr. Ray has extensive experience working with children, adolescents and adults in a variety of inpatient and outpatient settings. Dr. Ray has treated clients with a broad range of presenting concerns, including addiction, trauma, anxiety, mood disorders, sexuality, relational and developmental issues. She also has expertise working with clergy and understands the interplay between psychological and spiritual health. Dr. Ray utilizes a client-centered approach, welcomes opportunities for creative expression, and is sensitive to the reciprocal relationship between body and mind. Additionally, Dr. Ray has a professional interest in pre-natal/post-natal well-being, infant/early childhood mental health, and psychological assessment.

At the Expressive Therapy Center, Dr. Ray provides individual, group, and play therapy as well as parent guidance and education.

Back to top

Lucrezia Mangione, LGPC, CMT, CHTP/I

Lucrezia Mangione is a licensed graduate professional counselor in Maryland and a Healing Touch Instructor.  She holds a MA degree from Union Institute & University and BA from Manhattanville College with advanced trainings in mind-body techniques including mindfulness, Healing Touch, energy medicine and energy psychology.

Since 1995 her focus has been in complementary and integrative therapies that support the unique needs of each person. She has provided individual and group services in hospital, educational and private practice treatment settings including Lehigh Valley Hospital in Pennsylvania, the University of Vermont and, since 2009, Inova Hospital System in Northern Virginia. She is currently a sub-investigator on 2 pilot studies investigating the use of Healing Touch in an acute care hospital setting.

While Lucrezia works with individuals with a wide range of needs, she has a special interest in stress, anxiety, sensory processing sensitivity (SPS), life changes and the change process.  As a result, she’s experienced in helping people with anxiety, SPS, life transitions/decisions, grief and loss, chronic pain, medical conditions/disease/illness, health behaviors/well-care, and social skills/communication. She strives to assist a person in meeting their personal goals and vision while helping to improve coping skills to increase resiliency and enhance the quality of life and living.

Lucrezia works holistically from a whole person perspective. Her theoretical orientation is person-centered and strengths-based using an integrative approach. As clinically indicated and in age-appropriate ways, Lucrezia incorporates psychodynamic, cognitive-behavioral therapy and mindfulness based talk therapy with evidence-based contemplative and complementary therapies such as guided imagery, mindfulness skills, mind-body skills, and expressive techniques such as play, art-making, music, journaling to help the relaxation response, improve mental health and cultivate wellness.

At Expressive Therapy Center, Lucrezia works with caregivers, children, teens and adults in individual and group therapy.

Back to top

Corine Crowley, Ph.D.

Corine Crowley is a licensed clinical psychologist in Maryland. She completed her doctoral studies at The Catholic University of America with a specialization in Children, Families, and Cultures. Dr. Crowley has experience using therapy and psychological assessment with inpatient and outpatients populations with a wide variety of presenting problems including mood disorders, anxiety, autism spectrum disorders, social skills deficits, anger management, stress, and personal growth.

At the Expressive Therapy Center, Dr. Crowley emphasizes cultivating a strong relationship with clients in individual, group, and family therapies. The strength of this relationship helps to encourage growth in a safe and welcoming environment. In addition, she believes thorough assessment helps to clarify concerns so that problems can be targeted accurately. She utilizes eclectic techniques including play therapy, cognitive-behavioral therapy, and insight-oriented therapy in order to best meet the needs of children, adolescents, and adults. She also provides parenting skills training and conducts psychological and psycho-educational assessments. Workshops and seminars on a diverse range of topics in mental health can be provided upon request.

Back to top

Asperger’s Support Group

A developmental disorder related to autism, aspergers  often affects childrens' ability to engage in reciprocal social interaction, engage effectively in verbal and nonverbal communication, and the ability to accept and adjust to change. No child with asperger's is exactly alike, and each has different areas and levels of impairment.  Children with aspergers are often bright, happy and loving - but they need support to engage socially, understand and communicate both emotions and thoughts, and adjust to change.  If your child has aspergers or is on the autism spectrum, Expressive Therapy has a group that can help them with these challenges.

Summer Programs

ETC’s week-long summer programming offers children a chance to get a head start on developing skills that will benefit them all year long.
Our camp program is offered for children who will be entering Preschool through 8th grade in the upcoming school year. Children are placed in camp groups based on their age and needs.
Our Xpress Yourself social skills camp curriculum is designed to help children gain skills in:

  • Increasing Self esteem
  • Building strong and healthy peer relationships
  • Coping with bullying and other social challenges
  • Learning to identify and express feelings in a constructive manner
  • Creating organizational strategies for school and life

During camp, therapists work with groups of children using techniques such as role play, relaxation, art, games, and music along with other more traditional therapy techniques.

The week-long camps can serve as a starter or a booster to our ongoing social skills groups, or they can provide your child with a fulfilling experience.

icon Camp Flyer 2014

icon Camp Application 2014

Welcome to Expressive Therapy Center!

About Us

Expressive Therapy Center (ETC) is a thriving multidisciplinary counseling center that provides a broad array of services for children, adolescents and adults living in the Washington, DC, Maryland and Virginia areas. Our range of services include:

support_groups social_skills_groups therapy





Our Philosophy

We understand that there are many things in life that influence us and take a toll on our emotional well-being. We believe that with effective support, guidance and understanding, people have the ability to not only find the answers to their problems, but the strength to make positive changes in their lives.

Expressive Therapy Center offers a family-focused and individualized approach that is unique to each client and his or her family's needs. We consider the relationship between our therapists and our clients to be of the utmost importance in providing successful therapy and we strive to match our clients to the therapist who will best suit them.

Our therapists come from a variety of backgrounds, bringing their own distinctive experiences, strengths and specialties and utilizing a range of therapies, including art, play, movement and traditional talk therapy.

Our Process

expressive_therapy_centerWe prioritize the initial discovery phase to ensure that we meet your needs. You can expect to speak with our Director, Stephanie Natter, M.A. ATR CGP, or a skilled clinician, who will take the time to gain a full understanding of the challenges facing you or your family before you commit your time and resources. You will then be carefully assigned to a therapist whose clinical background matches your therapeutic needs.

An initial assessment will take place with your clinician. During that meeting, your therapist will gather additional background information, relevant history, and get to know you and/or your family member. We will then move forward to collaboratively develop an individualized treatment plan that works for you. We are a consortium of Psychologists, Social Workers, Counselors, and expressive therapists. In some cases, you and/or your family member may work with more than one clinician to address various concerns.

*although we are not currently paneled with any one insurance company, most insurers will cover a portion of our fees assuming you have out-of-network benefits. In addition, check with us regarding other affordability options if no benefits exist.

ETC does not follow the MCPS policy on snow closings and holidays.  Please check with your clinician as to whether sessions will be held as scheduled.




Montgomery County - North
14808 Physicians Lane, suite 111,
Rockville, MD 20850
| map

Montgomery County - South
5910 Goldsboro Road, Bethesda,
MD 20817
(Concord-St. Andrews Methodist Church) | map

Northern Virginia/DC
1320 Vincent Place,
McLean, VA 22101
| map

Sign up for our newsletter

Group Flyers/Announcements

© All Rights Reserved. Expressive Therapy Center, L.L.C.
Powered by Altronics Communications, Inc.